A Reaction to Trisha Famisaran, Repenting of Our Patriarchy & Heterosexism
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I recently watched a presentation given by a professor who teaches Religion and Philosophy at a Seventh-day Adventist university, entitled: “Repenting of Patriarchy.” Spectrum magazine has correctly retitled it, “Repenting of Our Patriarchy & Heterosexism.” The presenter was speaking at an Adventist church then preoccupied with Lent (a Roman Catholic tradition associated with Ash Wednesday), and addressing five deadly sins. In this sermon she discusses two of the sins of which she believes Seventh day Adventists need to repent.
I watched with interest. The speaker endeavored to explain why those who believe in the principles behind the Bible teaching of the Patriarchal System as it relates to men’s responsibility, headship, and leadership role–are wrong, and need to repent. I also found it most interesting—but not so surprising anymore, that she tied together the problems of heterosexualism with patriarchy.
The presenter believes that heterosexism is a problem (sexual relations between just a man and a woman). She says, “Heterosexism is this idea that to be straight is the norm, and that if you are anything but straight, you are on the outside, and subject to discrimination.” She believes that when we accept heterosexism as the Biblical standard of truth, it interferes with the rights of practicing homosexuals to be accepted and fully integrated into the church.
These were the twin issues in this sermon. Again, anyone accepting the Bible definition of sexuality and marriage with only the opposite sex–as well as accepting the clear Bible teaching against homosexuality, in the “Patriarchy & Heterosexism” presentation is also called upon to repent.
Repentance is a good thing, and is certainly a teaching of the Bible that is crucial and necessary! When John the Baptist preached, he called for people to repent (Matthew 3:1, 2). When Jesus was preaching, He called for repentance (Mark 1:15). The Bible is full of calls for repentance.
What is Bible repentance? The Bible teaches that genuine repentance has to do with turning from evil ways that are against what God teaches. He calls us to turn in a new direction–back towards what God says, with godly sorrow, humility, and genuine reform (John 3:7-14; 2 Corinthians 7:8-11).
But there is also a terrible danger—of repenting of and denying something that the Bible clearly teaches to be truth! God’s Word says,
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! (Isaiah 5:20, 21).
Satan will work with all his deceptive power to influence the heart and becloud the understanding, to make evil appear good, and good evil (Acts of the Apostles, p. 431).
One would get the message from the presentation we are considering that the patriarchal system is not only outdated but a very bad idea in the first place. The speaker acknowledged that one of Ellen White’s books was entitled Patriarchs and Prophets, but indicated that this was an unfortunate way of reporting history.
Speaking of Patriarchy, the speaker said: “Patriarchy literally means ‘rule of the father’. . . Patriarchy, as it manifests itself in sexism and heterosexism, constrains the humanity of both men and women by limiting who they are and what they might become.” She also stated that she did not believe it to be the will of God.
This has prompted me to think more about the patriarchal system; what it really was, what it stood for, and ask some questions. Shall we throw out what God designed because some have abused it and to the detriment of women? Or was, and are there, principles from this system that God clearly has ordained? Is the problem with what God ordained, or with how men have misused it for their selfish designs? Further, were these principles intended to continue and be a blessing for both men and women even in our day, or do we need to repent of them?
It is both interesting and significant that it appears that the first individual to abandon the patriarchal system was Nimrod (Genesis 10:9, 10). In setting up this kingdom, “he subverted the existing patriarchal order of society” (Jamieson, Fausset and Brown, Commentary on Isaiah 37:37).
Nimrod and Abraham were contemporaries and stood for two different religious systems, the religion of the Bible and the counterfeit religion of Babylon. The contrast is between Nimrod, the first king, and Abraham, the great patriarch. When Israel begged for a king, God gave them what they wanted, but not without serious and negative consequences. Monarchy replaced patriarchy and each step of compromise came because of the failure of God’s people to fulfill and obey His plan.
Abraham is he of whom God said, “Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments my statutes, and my laws” (Genesis 26:5). Abraham was called the friend of God (James 2:23). God said of him,
I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment, that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him (Genesis 18:19).
No discussion of the patriarchal system should be had without considering Abraham. Abraham took his calling very seriously.
And he would not only fear the Lord himself, but would cultivate religion in his home. He would instruct his family in righteousness. The law of God would be the rule in his household (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 141).
This patriarchal system of government Abraham endeavored to perpetuate, as it tended to preserve the knowledge of God (Ibid.).
What kind of arrangement was this?
It was a wise arrangement, which God himself had made. . . . His own example, the silent influence of his daily life, was a constant lesson. The unswerving integrity, the benevolence and unselfish courtesy which had won the admiration of kings, were displayed in the home. There was a fragrance about the life, a nobility and loveliness of character, which revealed to all that he was connected with Heaven” (Ibid., pp. 141, 142).
It sounds like this was a good thing rather than a bad one. What do you think?
We may not agree with every thing they did or the way they did it; but years ago an organization was formed that I’m sure brought joy to the hearts of many wives and children. It was called “Promise Keepers.” And one of the reasons it was formed was to call men to step up to the plate and be the loving spiritual leaders in their home. Rather than sitting on the sidelines, watching their football, drinking their beer, and being uninvolved (while their families struggled on—desperately needing a loving leader); the men were challenged to stand up and be faithful to their God-given role and lead.
Speaking of our day in the context of Abraham’s example, Ellen White says:
Let the Father, as priest of the household, lay upon the altar of God the morning and evening sacrifice, while the wife and children unite in prayer and praise. In such a household, Jesus will love to tarry (Ibid., p. 144).
But the question remains; was this patriarchal model just temporary; was it something to be “repented of,” changed and dismantled after Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross in New Testament times? Looking into the New Testament, the answer is No. Peter, under inspiration, describing what is to happen in the home and how wives can be truly beautiful and reflect the meek and quiet spirit of Jesus, says,
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation [conduct] of the wives. . . For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto heir own husbands: Even as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord; whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. Likewise, ye husbands dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honor unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous (1 Peter 3:1, 5-8).
Paul gave counsel to Titus how he should minister in New Testament times. Notice the instruction and how it is in complete harmony with the system that God ordained:
But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: that the aged men of sober grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; that they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed (Titus 2:1-5).
There is no appeal here in the New Testament to “Repent” or “Change” God’s principles, but rather it was a model for the families of that time.
Now notice how Mrs. White brings this patriarchal model down to families of our day.
His name, ‘house-band,’ is the true definition of husband. . . I saw that but few fathers realize their responsibility. . . The husband and father is the head of the household. The wife looks to him for love and sympathy and for aid in the training of the children; and this is right” (Adventist Home, p. 211).
All members of the family center in the father. He is the lawmaker, illustrating in his own manly bearing the sterner virtues; energy, integrity, honesty, patience, courage, diligence, and practical usefulness. . . Morning and evening the father as priest of the household, should confess to God the sins committed by himself and his children through the day. . . The father must not betray his sacred trust. He must not, on any point, yield up his parental authority (Ibid., p. 212).
What a tremendous responsibility! Who is sufficient for these things? Yet God has asked us as men to be loving care-givers and protectors of our families. What Jesus said is so true. “For without me ye can do nothing” (John 15:5).
Back to the presentation. The speaker had such convictions against patriarchy, that she was grateful that the church where she was speaking had changed the words of a hymn to refer to God as feminine, and later went on to say, “It is God who creates the diverse parts, just as ‘She’ thinks they should be.” This is a stark reminder that those who embrace this feminist and homosexual crusade must either reject Scripture or change it to accommodate their beliefs and lifestyle!
When Jesus taught us to pray, He did not say, “Our Mother which art in heaven or our Mother and Father which art in heaven; but He simply said, “Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name” (Matthew 6:9). In John 3:16 it does not say, For God so loved the world that she gave her only begotten son but rather, “he gave his only begotten Son.” Jesus did not say in John 14:9, he that hath seen me hath seen the Mother, but rather, “he that hath seen me hath seen the Father.” And this is consistent with all of scripture, including the fact that He says to us that His commitment and care for us is even stronger than a mother nursing her child.
In both paganism and Gnosticism the worship of female goddesses was very important. A Gnostic feminist writes:
. . .[T]he main thing distinguishing the Gnostic gospels from the Orthodox gospels is their abundance of powerful feminine imagery of the Divine. They reveal that many early Christians described and worshiped God as a dyad, a being consisting of both masculine and feminine elements. They prayed to both the divine Father and the divine Mother—to Mother—Father. One of their prayers, still intact, begins, ‘From thee, Father, and through thee, Mother. . .’ The Gnostic gospels also referred to the Holy Spirit as female (Sue Monk Kid, The Dance of the Dissident Daughter, p. 151).
But, here again, there is a problem. The Holy Spirit is not female or feminine in the Scripture. The word for “spirit” (RUACH) is feminine in Hebrew, but in Greek, it is neuter. More than this, when in the Gospel of John the Holy Spirit is refered to as the Comforter (PARAKLATOS) (John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7) the word used is grammatically masculine. Thus, in the New Testament where the doctrine of the Holy Spirit is actually spelled out, the representation is not feminine. In any case, we should probably not push grammatical gender very hard as a determinate of gender for God. We should permit the inspired writers to represent God’s person as they do and leave it at that.
In the presentation, the same kind of “androgyny” (dismissing sex differences and uniting them in one) is seen.
The presenter said that we needed to repent of our heterosexual mindset and realize that God has made homosexuals the way they are and they should be accepted into every area of life—which, of course, would include families and marriage as well as members in regular standing in the church. “No person should be treated as anything less than equal because they were born into one kind of body or one kind of sexual orientation and not another.” Presumably she also means accepting their sexual practice.
But let’s think this through. Would God make someone a homosexual, and then at the same time, condemn this type of behavior and lifestyle? What about Leviticus 20:13, Genesis 19:1-24, and Romans 1:22-28? If this does not sound fair, or really like God, you are exactly right! This is what God calls sin and He also calls for repentance from this sin. We need to remember that God did not create Adam and Steve for the first marital union but rather Adam and Eve. In 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 Paul says,
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived; neither fornicators or idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. . . shall inherit the kingdom of God.
The word effeminate here as used in this context, has to do with homosexuals (Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 6, p. 699).
But, praise God, this is not a hopeless situation for these individuals or any of us! Paul goes on to say in v. 11, “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”
I have a friend who was heavy into the homosexual lifestyle for several years. He was upset with his situation and at that time felt that God had created him as a homosexual. But finally the truth of God’s Word and the power of the Gospel broke his heart and he repented of both, his unjust charge against God and of his sinful behavior. He forsook that lifestyle, surrendered to Jesus and accepted Him as His personal Savior. He now is a minister of the Gospel, has a wife and family, and is calling others who are where he was, “to repent” and go free. Praise God!
It was amazing to hear this presentation. Where does this kind of belief and teaching come from? Certainly not from a careful reading of the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. It has to come from a “new” approach to Scripture, and from reading material that redefines God, the order of the family, and what is right and what is wrong. But the sad reality is that there are some even in our church that feel this same way, and now they are calling us to repent of patriarchism and heterosexism! What shall we do?
We don’t need to repent of simply taking God’s Word as it reads or from our support of God’s underlying principles of male responsibility, or of the biblical pattern of one man married to one woman sexuality. But there are a number of things from which we do need repentance.
1. Attempting to change God’s Word to accommodate this sick world all around us, and it’s present fascination with androgyny.
2. Attempting to change God’s beautiful complementarian plan for men and women in the home and in the church.
3. Rebellion against authority in God’s church, and striking out independently as some churches and unions have done, bringing confusion and division and encouraging increasingly “congregational” church governance.
4. Support of those practicing a homosexual lifestyle and for such individuals being received as members in regular standing.
5. Treatment of women that is unlike the way Jesus would treat them.
6. Treatment of homosexuals that is unlike the way Jesus would treat them.
7. Failure by men to step up to our responsibilities in our homes. Failure to be a loving leaders in our families, protecting them, praying for them, and living a Christian example before them.
8. From offering presentations such as “Repenting of Our Patriarchy and Heterosexism,” which confuse and mislead young people and others—calling good, evil, and evil, good.
Repentance: we sure do need it. May God help us to only repent of what He condemns; and hold on firmly to what He has spoken and blessed.
BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE: Lonny and Gerita Liebelt have served in pastoral ministry in the Carolinas, Indiana, California, Wyoming, Washington, and Montana. They presently live near Libby, Montana.
17 replies on “A Call to Repentance”
Way to go Lonny! Outstanding response! We will see more of these articles calling for the Church to give up it’s stand for right and truth.
We must not give in to such evil appeals. God will have a purified Church and that means the faithful must stand fast and endure to the end!
Elder Jim Cox, Ret.
It is sad that you even have to publish this response Pr Liebelt. The presentation from the “professor” is so foolish, I find it difficult to even speak of it in a serious academic tone. How can anyone that owns a bible entertain such ideas? If that is the kind of wisdom coming from a professor at an Adventist university, I would rather close it down.
I agree with Tim. Why does our universities and church leaders put up with such nonsense?
As I was watch the video at spectrum website, I look up the word “heretic” in the dictionary and she fits the description, and I say that in a loving way..
I agree with the comments made, specially in regards to steve Mahan’s comment, it is indeed very sad that we even have to read such ungodly comments. We just pray that they will be the ones who will repent, and accept the very truth of the bible.
As a life long SDA, Adventist school system through college graduate, I take seriously that the NT says all are equal (Jew and Greek, male and female). I have observed male ministers fail their calling by having affairs with women in their churches, I have seen the church suffer because of women being discriminated against, I realize most of you that read through this latest debate will disagree with me. Would you have tried to hold back Ellen White also – if you had a chance? If you don’t give women a chance, you will hold back carrying on the healing work of Christ for humanity in Adventist circles. Christ’s “other sheep” will have carry on without you – regretfully. Sincerely, Connard Grant Rasmussen, BA PUC ’68 and thankful for a chance to weigh in on this discussion.
Hi Connard, I hear and I think I understand. Would you be kind enough to read my article published on this site, “Will the Real Ministers Please Stand Up?” and let me know what you think.
God bless. We’re all in this together!
Jim: You were kind enough to offer that I read your article, so I did. When Christian women hear the call of the Holy Spirit to study and become SDA ministers, I believe we should not disqualify their ordination because of their gender. I believe it is wrong that committed Christain women who graduate from Andrews and Newbold in theology and continue to feel called by the Holy spirit to be pastors, are not welcomed and hired as are male theology graduates. I know of two female SDA theology graduates, currently unemployed as pastors – because of their gender. I refer back to the Scriptures that teaches males and females are the same in the sight of God. Christ said we will be known as His disciples if we love one another. Christ said we can judge people (churches too, perhaps) by their fruits. I grew up overseas in an SDA mission. I have witnessed how other major religions hold back women from realizing the their full God given potentials. I mourn the fact that there are those in the church of my birth – here in North America, that hold back women from using their God given callings and gifts to work as ordained pastors. Held back from leading out and preaching – as Ellen White once did in our church. If NAD SDAs are serious about “finishing the Lord’s work”, why get in the way of women who are called by the Holy Spirit to preach the Gospel and help shepherd His flocks? Over many years, I have heard and read many arguments against women ordination. I wanted to speak up this one last time in SDA circles – in favor of accepting women leaders and preachers in our church, as was Ellen White. Cordially, Connard Jr.
There is no question that women can do an outreach and ministry in many areas better than men can do. With regard to a headship leadership position, we must appeal to Scripture rather than to popular trends running through the world like a locomotive that has already left the station.
Also, (in context) Gal. 3:26-29 is talking about Savation rather than all having the same roles. That’s why it is still best according to the Bible for men to marry women rather men to marry men; That is why the example of ordination and headship in the Scripture has to do with men rather than women.
That is why when God asked his people to go to war, you did not find the women on the front lines (as the women of our day have requested and been granted) but they stayed home with the children.
We are all equal and precious in God’s sight – all candidates for salvation. But we don’t all have the same roles.
Does the HOLY Spirit call women to a work that God the Father has not called them to?
Christ promised the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth. I can not speak for the Father or Holy Spirit. We can however, encourage each other to study again the Life and Teachings of Christ and not add on cunningly devised fables and traditions of men to our theology and church mission. May Christ return quickly to help us refocus our spiritual mission again – as He did two thousand years ago – is my hope and prayer. Only in Heaven and the New Earth perhaps, will the endless human dabates end and we will instead get on in harmony – living and fulfilling the will of the Father as summed up in the Gospels (Jesus Only). Peace to each of you.
Greetings Peggy. My primary concern is that we are, or could become cultural Adventists on this ordination issue, rather than Biblical principled Adventists. This is a significant challenge as it could lead to the weakening of our God given call and message. Scripture is clear it is the Holy Spirit that gives gifts and makes the call on one’s life. Interestingly Genesis 1 speaks of both men and women being created in God’s image and given joint dominion. While sin may have influenced this, God through redemption is about restoration. The question arises are we to follow a sin weakened model or a redemption restored model? To work from Biblical principles as our guiding life applications, is to build on a solid foundation. Anything else is shifting sand. Blessings.
What is this professor teaching our young people? That it’s OK to be homosexual, but you have a problem if you are heterosexual (God made humans heterosexual and Satan is trying to pervert His creation by changing humans to homosexuals.). According to her God made a mistake by creating us heterosexual. This professor is against everything that Seventh-day Adventists stand for. Is the church allowing her to continue teaching in Adventist Schools. This not so much about wo,as it is perversion of the family and the church.
Isaiah 5:20,21 WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL EVIL GOOD,AND GOOD EVIL : WHO PUT DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS: WHO PUT BITTER FOR SWEET, AND SWEET FOR BITTER! WOE TO THOSE WHO ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES, AND PRUDENT IN THEIR OWN SIGHT!
I have a similar concern to yours about becoming “Cultural Adventists.” But my concern on this issue has to do with being “conformed” to the prevailing “cultural” attacks on the distinctive gender roles (and the disintegration of those roles) that are coming in from the world like a flood, and affecting us as church right now! By the way, the Holy Spirit never calls a person to something differently than what He moved men to write down in Scripture in the first place. In terms of returning to prefall Eden as our model; we need to remember that God’s order even before the sin problem was for the leadership and headship role of Adam. (please check out Gerhard Pfandl’s article entitled “Adam Where Are You” at “http://ordinationtruth.com/featured/pfag-away/“.) God had a purpose and order in the creation of man and the first family, even before the Sabbath. The Sabbath was important then and it is even more important now. God’s order for the family was important then, but is even more important now. Satan is making a trial run on the family now, his next move will be on the Sabbath.
This is a follow up to my response to Paul. I have sent him a personal apology but wanted to include it here. I felt that my response should have been more Christ like and that I should not have used the phrase “by the way”. I stil believe in what I stated but wish that I had said it in a more kind and thoughtful way. I’m sorry for my example. please forgive me.
I would first like to say thank you to Pastor Liebelt for his thoughtful comments on this subject. Scripture and SOP are clear on these subjects and we need not err. I live in the NPUC where the “Gleaner” is published and my wife and I were shocked and disheartened by three consecutive issues of that publication (February, March and April, 2013 editions). In these issues we felt that women’s ordination, homosexual lifestyle being accept as norm within Adventism, and spiritual formation were being not only promoted but pushed. The adds on the backs of these issues calling for “Gays in the family” had an interesting one liner at the end which said “How Would Jesus Respond?”. The answer to this question is clear in Genesis chapters 18 and 19 where Jesus Himself (PP 139.2) came to bring judgement upon Sodom and the surrounding cities. This does not mean that Jesus did not love these people but He knew that this lifestyle was separating the people of those cities from himself in a way that would keep them from ever feeling a need to repent. This lifestyle is a violation of the seventh commandment after all. (How would people respond if someone ran an add promoting “murders in the family”, or “pedophiles in the family” in this same publication?) We ought to love them in the same way that we love the alcoholic or the smoker; we do everything that we possibly can to help them gain the victory over these besetting sins.
In regard to women’s ordination I would like to make a couple of observations: It seems that many in our church are a bit confused about God given roles within the church. When we read about the gifts given by the Holy Spirit (Eph 4:11; 1 Cor 12:28) we tend to think vertically, that one office is more important than another, when God meant all the members to be equal with God at the head. In fact Mark 10:43-45 is clear regarding Christ’s position and example; “But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many”. It is rather crucifying to our selfish natures to consider that a higher position within the church should put us in more of a servant role (is not that what the term “minister” means?). This directly relates to the topic of women’s ordination and patriarchy. For most of this earths history man has thought that his God given leadership role gave him the right to exercise lordship over women when that was never God’s intention. God created men and women as equals with different roles. Man’s role was to be leader within the home (under God of course) and the women’s role was to bear children. Because of centuries of abuse of God given roles mankind has come to view the role of leader as superior and the role of child-bearer as inferior. But according to Ephesians 5:25 husbands (men) are to treat wives (women) as Christ treated the church and that is clarified in Mark 10:45. In spite of this if the role of child-bearer were able to be decided by a majority vote there would be a surprising number of men who would like to “give it a try”. Praise God that this role cannot be bartered away quite so simply because God has created women with unique qualities that specially qualify them for this role. Likewise God has “wired” men in such a way that they are better suited for the role that he gave to men. These are not meant to be fighting words, this is not demeaning to either sex, it is just the simple facts.
In our day we do not find many examples like that of Abraham who was truly a patriarch within his home and within the society in which he lived. Those families who have had a true patriarch as a husband and father do not chafe under his Godly leadership, they instead count it a privilege and a blessing to have the opportunity to enjoy a little taste of God’s original design for mankind.
Loren Mandigo – well said! Spread the word and may God bless.
Thanks for a very insightful and timely article. It is shocking that someone could preach such utter falsehoods and blasphemies from the pulpit. I would have probably stood up in the midst of her speech and protested! We always, always have to return to the word of God for wisdom on this and every subject. To me, it is so clear about the order of things and it has beautiful harmony and cohesiveness. Why do some think they can improve upon God’s way of doing things? Sin has become less offensive. Isaiah 5:20, 21 might very well sum up our current status on this planet. God have mercy on us as the worst is yet to come. He is faithful and will see us through. God’s truth shall prevail!