Women's Ordination Crisis Overview!

The truth….. It doesn’t get any better than this….
Those that ignore this, are the ones that want to change the word of “GOD”. by conforming to the ideal cultural of this world…
Serving “GOD” anyway they want too

The BIBLE TRUTH will always prevail!
Always there will be God’s people to carry it on!
Good work brethren

There are many who claim to have the “Truth”, but can anyone who does not have the Truth, “fall away” From the Truth? (2 Thessalonians 2:3 (NKJV)
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[a] is revealed, the son of perdition,

The world is quite intoxicating; its influence quite asphyxiating. What we have here is not just seepage of the world’s influence. I think we are dealing with active mischief which needs a robust and positive rebuttal and then we need to ensure that we regain control of the process of selecting leadership. The church needs to wake up across the board North America in particular needs to wake up and lead again. It is true that for many years there has been a leavening process in North America brought on by a very aggressive secular environment and a robust materialism. North America has attempted to culturally march with the world and almost forgot its mission and responsibility to the world work. A pride and isolationist stance has pervaded the churches there and the sense of mission has died. It its place we have seen all kinds of superfluous innovative academic choreography. North America needs to finish what it started. It needs to rediscover itself in those little red books and lead. The work is not finished. We need to rediscover the spirit of our pioneers and our duty in light of their sacrifice. We have a world to warn, not positions to fill. We have veered wide off the mark in our spirit. We have become quite sophisticated in our language and systems but we have lost something beautiful: our simple integrity, humility and sense of world mission, our sense of brotherhood and fellowship of the work. We have become cocky and the issues we now grapple with are clear mischief designed specifically for the carnal mind. How did we get here? How did we create an environment friendly to such time wasting nonsense? The day we sought the world’s recognition and approbation. That is the disease. Sad.

While I understand the reason some keep describing the ordination controversy as a distraction for the church, we need to understand that this doesn’t make it unimportant. Every sin, every departure from Bible truth, whether corporately or individually, is a distraction from the church’s mission.
In a sense, the entire great controversy between good and evil could be described in this way. God, after all, didn’t design intelligent creatures in the beginning to be involved in spiritual warfare, though such has become necessary because of the entrance of rebellion.
It is quite wrong to say, as some in this conversation are claiming, that there is no “thus saith the Lord” opposing women’s ordination. There is indeed:
“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God” (I Cor. 11:3).
“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man . . . For Adam was first formed, then Eve” (I Tim. 2:12-13).
The case against women’s ordination is as clear from inspired writings as the case against natural immortality or eternal torment is clear in the Bible. Of course, as in the cases of natural immortality and eternal torment, certain folks will find verses which appear to depart from the Biblical consensus. But when that consensus is consulted, the Biblical position becomes evident.
The same is true for distinct gender roles in ministry.

Hello Noel, please think about some points.
1) CAP wishes, that every member, not only in the NAD, will read all the good and clear articles in
ordinationtruth.com about women ordination. Therefore they have much more done for us, than the GC officers like Ted Wilson or Marc Finley do in this crisis, they are neutral – but God hates it, if leaders in a great religious crisis are neutral. I didn´t hear wether from Wilson nor from Finley their point of View to WO – like politics do. But CAP is very clear and biblical.
2) You said: „The case for WO has no merit“, but you have forgotten, that obedience to God and His word is necessary. To ordain only man as elders is a command of God like other commands that we have to keep – please read the important article from Clinton Wahlen about the view of point of the group, who are against WO. Or shall we disobedient like Saul: „For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of trhe Lord…“ (1 Sam 15:23).
3) We have to decide between God and his Word or the precepts of man, Bible or Tradition.
In this manner is the question about WO very importent. If we are disobedient here, whre will we stand on the end? We are loving Jesus Christ, our Redeemer and will therefore do, want He want, that we shall do.

I agree Erich with everything you said and I appreciate that CAP have done a lot. I am just concerned that somehow their good work gets to have as much reach as the Pro-Ordination attempts of the GC and Adventist World. I am not sure that the NAD membership as a majority favor WO. If it is so, the CAP have their work cut out for ’em. There is just this disturbing tendency to pass it and then read it among people i general, especially if a concept is viewed as new and the “in thing”. So the debate does need to be extended and deepened so that our people as a whole do not take it as a trifling matter or a passing much ado about nothing. Your perception that this a Rubicon experience is apt.